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lwdlyndale's avatar

Great post. I'd add that Rogan freaking out is a great example of how in politics the messenger can sometimes be more important than the message. He's exactly the sort of person who might be able to influence the 15-20%* of the electorate that voted for Trump but are open to changing their minds, like a lot of people did in 2020. AOC giving a speech on why the deportations show that Trump is a fascist might make Brian personally happier but it's really unlikely to have an impact on some guy who voted for Trump five months ago but is now worried about his 401k. But Rogan could have an influence.

*or insert a number of your choice

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>>After polls closed and results started coming in, there was another surprise: despite raising more than $15,000,000 the Democratic nominee will likely do relatively worse in Fl-6 than the quieter FL-1 race.<<

This is a little disingenuous - 06 is a heavily Republican district. - Waltz won his last election there 66% - 33%, and Trump carried it 64-34%. Last night, the results were 56-42%. that's a pretty significant reduction in the margin of victory in a safe red district. This negates your argument that Democrats should just go quietly into the night.

You also misrepresent, based on anecdotal evidence of one podcaster, what the majority of "liberals" wanted in the run-up to the Wisconsin SC election - not necessarily to see Musk frog-marched up the courthouse steps but to see the law be applied or at least the grievance against his election meddling heard. Per the Election Law Blog:

Wisconsin law makes the payment for turnout illegal. In particular, under section 12.11(1m)(a)(2), it is a crime to “offer[]…anything of value…to…any elector…in order to induce any elector to: (a) Vote or refrain from voting.” This is separate and apart from a prohibition on voting or refraining from voting “for or against any particular person.” (Thanks to Nate Ela for the pointer.)

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=149196

I, and many other people, do not agree with simply being passive while a person is literally violating the law and not facing any consequences, the richest man in the world or not.

You are also misrepresenting how the candidate in Wisconsin won, Crawford literally tied her opponent to Musk in campaign ads, speeches, and interviews, at times referring to Musk as her opponent.

This whole post rings as if you have a personal issue with Beutler and cherry-picked facts to prove your point and dismiss his.

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