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Wolfy Jack's avatar

Lauren thank you for the post.

I disagree with the headline, Kamala is moderate. I think she is more undefined but historically she has been a progressive and ran to the left of Biden. True she hedged a little to the right of Sanders and Warren but that does not make a moderate which I would identify as being in the middle ideologically of the New Democratic caucus. Biden qualified in 2020 though I think he took his governance left.

So to answer your question, "What does “moderate” mean to you? And how do you self-identify as a Center Left Democrat?"

Moderate imo is believing, as the liberals that we are, that the government can and should do things to help the people, environment, but usually with a more modest incremental approach. So I was in favor of ACA but not M4A as Harris was. I actually dont care that much, but a hallmark of progressives is that they concern themselves more with what is right than possible, and ACA got through by the cats whiskers, and M4A could never have passed, and was far from incremental.

I did support the IRA but I did not support BBB (Build Back Better) because the latter was an enormous 1.9T program that was not self funded and would have caused enormous debt and would have further incited inflation. Dems always like to credit Clinton with being the last balanced budget which is true, but they dont actually say they prefer reducing debt. That is being a moderate.

Indeed the Dems under Pelosi advocated a pay go approach to spending but when I hear of Harris' programs like the mortgage benefits and child benefits, what I dont hear is that it will be covered by the requisite taxes.

As part of the inflation issue, I think most economists, even liberal ones, note that the stimulus programs in total, some coming from Trump, increased demand for the limited supply to the extent that it contributed a 1-2% effect on the peak inflation of about 8%, so a factor though a modest part, but I feel that is ignored, and that Harris' approach to affordable housing, to give people 25K is actually counterproductive in the same way. It increases demand where the real solution to affordable housing is to increase supply. And Dems have addressed that with the YIMBY movement to promote housing density and get rid of restrictive zoning. I did hear that slightly at the convention, but the main Harris plank of just giving people money to get a first time mortgage will only exacerbated demand and raise housing prices. It also is not moderate in that it repeats the pre 2008 housing crisis approach of helping people get mortgages where they wont qualify from banks because their credit is not high enough. That is a recipe for future foreclosures that precipitated the 2008 crash. I think the moderate thing is not for the government to give loans that are too risky and should get out of the loan business and let the banks do what they understand best, calculate risk.

I am no Libertarian and so I think government should help people, but not carte blanche. If we need more nurses and teachers we should use guaranteed loans to allow people to pursue those but it is a mistake to guarantee enormous amounts of money so people can go to expensive schools (why not community college followed by public) and get a BA in social sciences. And what I think is not moderate in the school loan bailouts is setting the cut off for the benefit at at 250K income for a couple. How in the world is giving money to somebody making 240K anything but a giveaway to the wealthy. So that defines, moderation to me. Yes, I support social benefits, but not excessively.

I do not see Harris taking moderate stands on these.

To me a moderate would 1) end the amnesty loophole that lets millions of people at the border entering illegally, get in the country pending adjudication that often takes many years and is often lost. That could be part of an agreement with the Rs that also includes DACA and increases in legal immigration (waiting time for a sib of a citizen is now 15 years) 2) limiting student loan payoffs to special cases, which already was in place with forbearance, but not blanket pay offs 3) no price controls, an approach that never works 4) attention to and reduction of the national debt 5) let banks give mortgages based on risk, everybody does not need to buy, and what the real problem is, is not enough housing supply, so attack zoning and density restrictions, and stop demonizing landlords and builders which is a DSA approach, it is not a coincidence that all the cities with the highest home prices are run by progressives.

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Victor Thompson Mas's avatar

I wonder/worry how many more Democratic members of Congress will take up the mantle of dragging out negotiations the way Manchin and Sinema did.

Democrats reinforce a perception they are internally incoherent when negotiations take too long. It happened under Clinton, Obama and Biden. It can't be repeated.

The mantra must be to pass whatever can get 50 votes as quickly as possible. Let everything else on the table for SECRET negotiations until you can get to 50 too.

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